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have to look at the people who have come forward in the last week or so have been people like lindsey graham, john mccain, rand paul now, and we haven't heard much from the rank and file in the house. and when you have a group of people that are safely ensconced in gerrymandered districts, there's not much motivation to come out in favor in something like immigration reform. so the senate might be talking about it, but people that matter like lamar smith who was the chair of the judiciary committee, hasn't made a statement. he's bringing back the word amnesty real quick. >> words that matter, you have bobby jindal, the governor of louisiana, i feel like we should get a plug every time we say politico, but he says governor jindal says we must not be the party that protects the rich so they get to teep their toys. we also had enough of this dumb-down conservatism. we need to thrust the intelligence of the american people and we need to stop insulting the intelligence of voters. so i mean he didn't say amnesty but we saw the heated rhetoric to insight fear and get people fired up and ready to b
have to look at the people who have come forward in the last week or so have been people like lindsey graham, john mccain, rand paul now, and we haven't heard much from the rank and file in the house. and when you have a group of people that are safely ensconced in gerrymandered districts, there's not much motivation to come out in favor in something like immigration reform. so the senate might be talking about it, but people that matter like lamar smith who was the chair of the judiciary...
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mccain and lindsey graham said he will not support the nomination of ambassador rice if she's nominate. >> we will do what we can do block the nomination. >> i don't trust her. i thought she should know better. if she didn't snow better, she shouldn't be the voice of america. >> their chief complaint is they disqualified herself several days after the benghazi on a slew of shows, including "meet the press." >> our current assessment is what happened in benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction of what had transpired hours before in cairo. almost a copycat of the demonstrations at our facility in cairo. >> at his news conference, a visibly angry obama fired back. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi, and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received, and to besmirch her representation is outrageous. >> well, mccain didn't want to have the president to have the last word. and he raced to the senate fl
mccain and lindsey graham said he will not support the nomination of ambassador rice if she's nominate. >> we will do what we can do block the nomination. >> i don't trust her. i thought she should know better. if she didn't snow better, she shouldn't be the voice of america. >> their chief complaint is they disqualified herself several days after the benghazi on a slew of shows, including "meet the press." >> our current assessment is what happened in benghazi...
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you have john mccain and lindsey graham both saying if her nomination is put forward, they will filibuster it. are there any indications that that would become an official republican party position, because if the republicans unite, they would have the 40 votes to kill it by filibuster. >> there is a lot of opposition among republicans to a potential susan rice nomination. people are not actively talking about filibuster, although that's the obvious presumption if you talk about members trying to block something like this. in some was they are saying that she was schoezen bied white house to be the public face in the early days after the attack to talk about what happened. if she were to become secretary of state, she would need sort of a greater sense of recognizing that the story that was being put forward might not be accurate. they're sort of compelling her to have greater knowledge than what was given to her by the intelligence community. she has become a political focus here. whether they actually go forward with that or not is a matter to be decided later. what it has done in the mo
you have john mccain and lindsey graham both saying if her nomination is put forward, they will filibuster it. are there any indications that that would become an official republican party position, because if the republicans unite, they would have the 40 votes to kill it by filibuster. >> there is a lot of opposition among republicans to a potential susan rice nomination. people are not actively talking about filibuster, although that's the obvious presumption if you talk about members...
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from lindsay graham and kelly iot. are those just the three that feel this way? are they outlieers. >> i think there's a big demand to find out what happened in benghazi and to do so through a select committee. there's going to be no sharing of intelligence between the various committees who look into benghazi. so the idea is a select committee can take this on, share information and really get to the bottom of it. what republicans are saying is the obama administration has put out very conflicting stories about what happened in benghazi, when they knew about it, what they did about it and how they sort of perpetuated the idea this was a spontaneous attack. so the republicans on capitol hill are saying we only need to get through the double talk. get to the bottom of what happened. we lost an american am bas dpor. three other americans. president obama said i did everything i could as soon as we found out this is happening. then how come the whole place was left completely undefended? there's so many big ands of questions. that's what senator mccain was getting a
from lindsay graham and kelly iot. are those just the three that feel this way? are they outlieers. >> i think there's a big demand to find out what happened in benghazi and to do so through a select committee. there's going to be no sharing of intelligence between the various committees who look into benghazi. so the idea is a select committee can take this on, share information and really get to the bottom of it. what republicans are saying is the obama administration has put out very...
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senator graham and senator mccain are acting just childishly despicable. they know susan rice had intel. she said this is the intel we had at the time. this is what we know. they of all people know that condi rice who hay that had no problem supporting after she mistakenly or erroneously spread information about weapons of mass destruction herself pointed out that when things are unfolding, that's what an investigation is. it's what you know right now may not be what you know in a couple of weeks. it shows there's not a genuine attempt to work with the president. >> senator mccain was on the "today show" this morning. matt lauer asked him specifically about the two race situations. take ha look. >> you said opponents of condoleezza rice were expressing sour grapes after an election loss. why is this different? >> because every intelligence agency in the world, including the british, believe that iraq had weapons of mass destruction, that it was an entirely different situation. four americans died that didn't have to die. >> is there a blurring of the line
senator graham and senator mccain are acting just childishly despicable. they know susan rice had intel. she said this is the intel we had at the time. this is what we know. they of all people know that condi rice who hay that had no problem supporting after she mistakenly or erroneously spread information about weapons of mass destruction herself pointed out that when things are unfolding, that's what an investigation is. it's what you know right now may not be what you know in a couple of...
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. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador, who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received, and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> that's the slow burn from the president, i'd say. this morning mccain had some strong words for his former opponent, the president. let's listen to mccain. >> i know that people don't come to spontaneous demonstrations with rockets and mortars, and for the president of the united states for two weeks afterwards to deny that that was the case is either a cover-up or it is incompetence. >> one of mccain's main allies, senator lindsey graham of south carolina, also responded to the president. he said, quote, "mr. president, don't think for one minute i'm not going to hold you ultimately responsible for benghazi. i think you failed as commander in chief before, during, and after the attack." what's behind all this anger? is it political or personal? and why are they unleashin
. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador, who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received, and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> that's the slow burn from the president, i'd say. this morning mccain had some strong words for his former opponent, the president. let's listen to mccain. >> i...
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there will be a bunch of republicans led by john mccain and joe lieberman and lindsey graham who are going to argue for longer troop deployments. waiting to see what the conditions are on the ground. having more troops there than the administration wants and a big segment of the republican caucus that will not support that. and that, again, is the divide inside the republican caucus. ultimately the president is going to have to balance the risk of withdrawing troops faster against the goal of leaving afghanistan as stable and secure as possible. and whatever his decision is going to be, that's going to be his legacy. so that's going to be his responsibility. >> is there anybody else who's stepping up on the john mccain side of this? i mean, at this point john mccain is a noun and verb and don't cut and run. he's really -- i feel like his credibility on foreign policy issues is getting pretty wispy at this point. is there anybody else who's taken the place of him as he becomes less and less relevant? >> mark kirk, kelly ayotte, marco rubio. prepared to carry this water on the republic
there will be a bunch of republicans led by john mccain and joe lieberman and lindsey graham who are going to argue for longer troop deployments. waiting to see what the conditions are on the ground. having more troops there than the administration wants and a big segment of the republican caucus that will not support that. and that, again, is the divide inside the republican caucus. ultimately the president is going to have to balance the risk of withdrawing troops faster against the goal of...
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i'm not sure the specter of lindsey graham and john mccain, who i think said that he felt like susan rice wasn't very bright. >> yes, that was the language he used. >> i don't know i don't feel that's a good position for either people to be in in the republican party. >> raul, we have to have you back on. you're always a great guest. mark thank you for stepping out with us. coming up, live to capitol hill where a senate intelligence hearing on benghazi is set to start. it's one of a couple happening today. none include general david petraeus, but we have new word the general will make an appearance in the next 24 hours. ♪ i am the ghost of cookies past. residue. so gross. well you didn't use new pam, so it looks like you're "stuck" with me. [ female announcer ] bargain brand cooking spray leaves annoying residue. that's why there's new pam. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the prevent
i'm not sure the specter of lindsey graham and john mccain, who i think said that he felt like susan rice wasn't very bright. >> yes, that was the language he used. >> i don't know i don't feel that's a good position for either people to be in in the republican party. >> raul, we have to have you back on. you're always a great guest. mark thank you for stepping out with us. coming up, live to capitol hill where a senate intelligence hearing on benghazi is set to start. it's...
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richardson. >> thank you, alex. >> let's focus first on the mccain, graham, ayotte piece which seems to be political the fact they're calling for watergate style investigations and at the same time, john mccain isn't attending the high-level security briefings relating to the incident. >> well, first, the congress does have a legitimate role in oversight on benghazi, on nominations but, however, this seems to be getting political though senator mccain is an honorable man. i've known him for many year, but so is ambassador rice. i've known her. she's for thorough professiona. the u.n. ambassador is a cabinet member. but the u.n. ambassador's role is in new york dealing with security counsel, sanctions on iran, sanctions on north korea. you're not in the daily ma maelstrom in washington, d.c. the information that the intelligence community provided her at the time, but that intelligence changes. so i think the president is right, to back his people. secondly, to say that ambassador rice was deceptive is wrong. she is reading from pieces of paper that you get every morning from either a
richardson. >> thank you, alex. >> let's focus first on the mccain, graham, ayotte piece which seems to be political the fact they're calling for watergate style investigations and at the same time, john mccain isn't attending the high-level security briefings relating to the incident. >> well, first, the congress does have a legitimate role in oversight on benghazi, on nominations but, however, this seems to be getting political though senator mccain is an honorable man. i've...
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. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence she had received and besmir much her reputation is outrageous. >> earlier, senators mccain and graham slammed rice vowing to stop her rumored nomination as secretary of state. >> i don't trust her. and the reason i don't trust her is because i think she knew better and if she didn't know better, she shouldn't be the voice of america. >> we'll do whatever is necessary to block the nomination. >> all right. so back to petraeus. "the wall street journal" reports he was already at odds with his boss national intelligence directsor james clapper after petraeus wanted the cia to fight back publicly against criticism for its role in benghazi. and we also have new details this morning on the personal scandals that have enveloped petraeus and john allen from nbc's andrea mitchell who broke this story. >> reporter: at his news conference, the president
. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence she had received and besmir much her reputation is outrageous. >> earlier, senators mccain and graham slammed rice vowing to stop her rumored nomination as secretary of state. >> i don't trust her. and the reason i don't trust her is...
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, son of billy graham. mr. graham tells a right wing website that the president's re-election puts the nation on, and i'm quoting him, a path of destruction and suggested that only, quote, complete economic collapse can put the nation back on the path to godliness. i thought, sir, that godliness was about taking care of the poor and the marginalized. mr. graham seems to be suggesting that the president's concern for these individuals, those individuals represented by people like yourself, that this is a path to destruction. >> well, i think that what mr. graham's message is certainly something that we could say that we were on the way to economic collapse, and this president brought us back. so not only is he theologically unsound, he's historically inaccurate. the fact of the matter is if he was paying attention, we almost went to our knees, and now we're working our way back 32 months of job creation. we're seeing the whole economy starting a recovery, so i think mr. graham is off base both historically,
, son of billy graham. mr. graham tells a right wing website that the president's re-election puts the nation on, and i'm quoting him, a path of destruction and suggested that only, quote, complete economic collapse can put the nation back on the path to godliness. i thought, sir, that godliness was about taking care of the poor and the marginalized. mr. graham seems to be suggesting that the president's concern for these individuals, those individuals represented by people like yourself, that...
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lindsey graham took to twitter writing, "mr. president, don't think for one minute i don't hold you ultimately responsible for benghazi." and senator mccain took his rebuttal to the floor of the senate. >> we believe whoever it is must be held responsible, i say to the president of the united states, most importantly, the president of the united states who is commander in chief. who so far, in my view, has not exercised those responsibilities and also not informed the american people of the facts. >> s.e., senator mccain went on to say yesterday there was either gross incompetence here or, in fact, a white house cover-up. >> yeah. >> what do you think -- and we've asked senator mccain this directly -- what do you think he and others suspect in the matter? >> well, a couple things. i think it's a little bizarre. the indignation over questioning susan rice is a little bizarre given that she was made by the president's own admission the spokesperson on that day for what happened in benghazi. she was sent out to the sunday shows, fi
lindsey graham took to twitter writing, "mr. president, don't think for one minute i don't hold you ultimately responsible for benghazi." and senator mccain took his rebuttal to the floor of the senate. >> we believe whoever it is must be held responsible, i say to the president of the united states, most importantly, the president of the united states who is commander in chief. who so far, in my view, has not exercised those responsibilities and also not informed the american...
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graham and i are talking to our colleagues about this right now and i think we have a darn good chance using this blueprint to get something done this year. the republican party has learned that being anti-illegal and anti-immigrant doesn't work for them politically and they know t. >> senator coburn, what is the lesson for your party from this election? >> you have to be -- you have to demonstrate what you're for, not what you're against. i think that's the key ingredient and sell a vision positive for america, not a negative vision about what's wrong with america. i think you have to have both but we didn't sell a positive vision. we didn't explain to people what we're for. i think that's the one thing we took away from the election, and that's what's lacking. >> do you see, senator schumer, a role for governor romney in this process, like to see the president bring him in to the negotiations over the fiscal cliff? >> you know about that but i would like to see him speak up. i think you could see him struggling in the general election, the hard right had moved him so far over on issu
graham and i are talking to our colleagues about this right now and i think we have a darn good chance using this blueprint to get something done this year. the republican party has learned that being anti-illegal and anti-immigrant doesn't work for them politically and they know t. >> senator coburn, what is the lesson for your party from this election? >> you have to be -- you have to demonstrate what you're for, not what you're against. i think that's the key ingredient and sell...
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and graham is willing to do it on immigration. he's going to say that this morning. we need other people to do the same. >> we will leave it there as this debate continues. senators, thank you both very much. >> you're welcome. >>> coming up here, you heard where both sides stand. we're going to have some reaction to these two senators and analysis on where the negotiations go from here. >>> also, the economic stakes. if lawmakers can't get a deal, what does it mean to all of us? we will check in with the host of cnbc's "mad money," that's jim cramer. >>> also, we'll talk more broadly about the politics post-election and more on the petraeus 1k57b8d that's unfolding around this roundtable. joaquin castro from texas, doris kearns goodwin, historian, of course. more from bob woodward and our own chuck todd as we continue here on "meet the press." >>> coming up, the dow closed friday down 300 points for the week, finishing one of the worst weeks in the stock market, due, in part, about the concerns over the fiscal cliff. we will check in, in addition to the group, jim c
and graham is willing to do it on immigration. he's going to say that this morning. we need other people to do the same. >> we will leave it there as this debate continues. senators, thank you both very much. >> you're welcome. >>> coming up here, you heard where both sides stand. we're going to have some reaction to these two senators and analysis on where the negotiations go from here. >>> also, the economic stakes. if lawmakers can't get a deal, what does it...
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you saw senator graham working on a proposal. the dream act was close to begin with. but when you look back to george bush, he was trying to get immigration reform done in his last two years, but it was the first time of the pushback from talk radio. now you have hispanics 10% of the electorate. you have, as was pointed out this weekend, 75% of them voted for president obama. so the republicans have a little outreach to do. and i'd suggest one way instead of just giving speeches is work with us on immigration reform. >> from your advantage point as a democrat who has been cross aisle oriented, what happens within the republican party between those republican senators and who they see as constituents on an issue like that? he's secretary of state in kansas. he's there. and that's an active and vocal faction in the republican party. how do they lose the debate if they need to lose the debate for republicans to survive? >> the business community can play a major role. we have major businesses that want to see immigration reform. they look at their employee base. they loo
you saw senator graham working on a proposal. the dream act was close to begin with. but when you look back to george bush, he was trying to get immigration reform done in his last two years, but it was the first time of the pushback from talk radio. now you have hispanics 10% of the electorate. you have, as was pointed out this weekend, 75% of them voted for president obama. so the republicans have a little outreach to do. and i'd suggest one way instead of just giving speeches is work with us...
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lindsey graham yesterday said he's now going to bring back the immigration reform bill with chuck schumer and they're going to work on them. sean hannity is saying let's do comprehensive immigration reform. more specifically on the issue of taxes. it's been more than two decades. bill crystal said yesterday, yeah, it's time to do that. mitch mcconnell actually saying he was basically open to it. i'm not taking this as wow, the republicans have reinvented themselves and this is a nuj republican party and a huge change for the future. this is an aaffirmation about something about how the system is supposed to work. this is why i thought was most important in this election was what were the tactics of the republican party the last four years. their opposition party tactics of total obstruction to politically destroying the president of the other party. were those tactics validated. if they won power back by doing that, it will normally behavior by the opposition party our system is not billed for. the behavior of the republican for the last four years works in a british system where the only
lindsey graham yesterday said he's now going to bring back the immigration reform bill with chuck schumer and they're going to work on them. sean hannity is saying let's do comprehensive immigration reform. more specifically on the issue of taxes. it's been more than two decades. bill crystal said yesterday, yeah, it's time to do that. mitch mcconnell actually saying he was basically open to it. i'm not taking this as wow, the republicans have reinvented themselves and this is a nuj republican...
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and to a lesser extent the same could be said by senator graham. for them to see that we have been attacked by enemies of the united states, our embassy and therefore the united states is being attacked, and sunsinstead joining in and seeing who the enemy was to find them and to bring them to justice, they have seen fit to jointly want to destroy the political career of an ambassador that was merely repeating the intelligence that was given to her. this is not what is expected of our heroes. clearly when a family, america, is under attack, you don't really take sides of the attacker and start charging malfeasance to the commander in chief. >> but, mr. rangel, mr. mccain, senator mccain says he wants more information, so he does a press conference. he goes to the floor of the senate. he appears on the "today" show. but he doesn't attend the briefing where he might have got some answers to his questions. >> well, i have to admit that a lot of us are addicted to the television screens rather than to the facts in this case, but i would hope that the se
and to a lesser extent the same could be said by senator graham. for them to see that we have been attacked by enemies of the united states, our embassy and therefore the united states is being attacked, and sunsinstead joining in and seeing who the enemy was to find them and to bring them to justice, they have seen fit to jointly want to destroy the political career of an ambassador that was merely repeating the intelligence that was given to her. this is not what is expected of our heroes....
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but already she has a no vote from lindsey graham. the senator echoing concerns about her role in the handling of the benghazi attack. >> i don't, quite frankly, trust her rendition of benghazi. so i think susan rice would have an incredibly difficult time getting through the senate. i would not vote for her unless there's a tremendous opening up of information explaining herself in a way she has not yet done. his delicious could only come from nature. now from the maker of splenda sweeteners, discover nectresse. the only 100% natural, no-calorie sweetener made from the goodness of fruit. the rich, sweet taste of sugar. nothing artificial. ♪ it's all that sweet ever needs to be. new nectresse. sweetness naturally. >>> even before the shock of the resignation of cia director david petraeus has worn off, the question about the widely add mired general is this -- what's next? here's his former spokesperson on "today." >> i don't think we've heard the last of david petraeus. he's come back from quite a bit of adversity in the past, para
but already she has a no vote from lindsey graham. the senator echoing concerns about her role in the handling of the benghazi attack. >> i don't, quite frankly, trust her rendition of benghazi. so i think susan rice would have an incredibly difficult time getting through the senate. i would not vote for her unless there's a tremendous opening up of information explaining herself in a way she has not yet done. his delicious could only come from nature. now from the maker of splenda...
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lindsey graham, john mccain and the departing joe lieberman. i don't know of any other voices in the national political scene who are saying we can't leave. we have to do as long as it takes and stay there forever. there's no public support for it. >> because of this scandal, i just -- i mean, one of the things that you hear from veterans groups, that people outside the military i don't think seem all that comfortable talking about is the personal toll of these long deployments over multiple years on people's personal lives. young veterans bemoan the rate of divorce among veterans. how difficult it is to sustain a family and relationships. i don't know why we think it's easier for top commanders than your average infantry man trying to hold his family together. is this potentially -- we tend to defer to the military's own judgment on these things. we ask the commanders on the ground for their own opinion, but is this not another occasion for civilians to say, this is done in our name. the military isn't fighting this war because it wants to, be
lindsey graham, john mccain and the departing joe lieberman. i don't know of any other voices in the national political scene who are saying we can't leave. we have to do as long as it takes and stay there forever. there's no public support for it. >> because of this scandal, i just -- i mean, one of the things that you hear from veterans groups, that people outside the military i don't think seem all that comfortable talking about is the personal toll of these long deployments over...
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at 11:51 this morning when lindsay graham told that lie about ambassador susan rice, little lindsay graham, and i speak not of his physical stature, i speak of the size of this tiny man's character, little lindsay graham became the senate's new joe mccarthy. the word liar belongs before his name now instead of senator until lindsay graham retracts that lie, until he says i was wrong to call ambassador right, quote, an essential player in the benghazi debacle. that lie cannot stand. the media cannot allow it to stand, but we know better. we can be assured that the media will, for the most part, actually allow it to stand. liar lindsey graham will continue to be invited on tv shows where that statement will not be called a lie. it may be challenged, but it will not be called a lie. liar lindsay graham, of course, has an open invitation to come on this program and retract his lie or try to get away with it again and see how that works out for him here. liar lindsey graham and john mccain are the same who had no problem for another named rice, after she failed miserably as george bush's nation
at 11:51 this morning when lindsay graham told that lie about ambassador susan rice, little lindsay graham, and i speak not of his physical stature, i speak of the size of this tiny man's character, little lindsay graham became the senate's new joe mccarthy. the word liar belongs before his name now instead of senator until lindsay graham retracts that lie, until he says i was wrong to call ambassador right, quote, an essential player in the benghazi debacle. that lie cannot stand. the media...
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senators john mccain and lindsey graham want to work on reform. john boehner wants to find common ground. and even sean hannity is trying to shift to the middle. >> we have to get rid of the immigration issue all together. it's simple. you control the border first. you create a pathway for those that are here. you don't say you have to go home. and that's a position i have evolved on. because you know what, it's got to be resolved. the majority of people here, some have criminal records, you can send them home. but if they are law-abiding, kids are born here, first secure the border, pathway to citizenship, done. whatever little penalties you want to put in there. then it's done. >> pathway to citizenship, done. where was all this talk before the election? you see this is all about getting votes. it's not coming from the heart. reforming immigration policy is a huge risk for the republicans. they could alienate their base. there's no guarantee they will win the latino vote in the long run. let's turn to ruy teixeira. great to have you with us. >>
senators john mccain and lindsey graham want to work on reform. john boehner wants to find common ground. and even sean hannity is trying to shift to the middle. >> we have to get rid of the immigration issue all together. it's simple. you control the border first. you create a pathway for those that are here. you don't say you have to go home. and that's a position i have evolved on. because you know what, it's got to be resolved. the majority of people here, some have criminal records,...
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. >> what else did senator graham say? still licking their wounds from an election night trouncing. >> if you had said to me three weeks ago, mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he's 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> dumbfounded. is all this a sign that republicans are now ready to meet in the middle on issues like immigration and taxes? will they move faster on immigration? you can join our conversation on twitter. you can find me at @tamronhall and my team at @newsnation. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and my daughter loves the santa. oh, ah sir. that is a customer. let's not tell mom. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] don't just reject convention. drown it out. introducing the all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. an entirely new pursuit. [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power f
. >> what else did senator graham say? still licking their wounds from an election night trouncing. >> if you had said to me three weeks ago, mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he's 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> dumbfounded. is all this a sign that republicans are now ready to meet in the middle on issues like immigration and taxes? will they move faster on immigration? you can join our conversation on twitter. you can...
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if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. when they go after the u.n. ambassador, apparently because they think she's an easy target, then they've got a problem with me. and should i choose -- if i think that she would be the best person to serve america in the capacity -- the state department, then i will nominate her. that's not a determination i've made yet. >> why don't you be our u.n. interpreter right now and explain all the elements of that amazing response. it was personal, poignant, emotional, also careful because he said i may not make her the united states secretary of state but i don't want her to get the idea or anybody in the world to get the idea f i don't give her the job it's because of benghazi in that statement. >> reporter: absolutely right. here's the thing. this has bothered the white house for weeks. the idea that susan rice is taking the fall, taking these attacks, particularly from john mccain and lindsey graham, because all she was doing, she had gotten the same intelligence briefing that members of
if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. when they go after the u.n. ambassador, apparently because they think she's an easy target, then they've got a problem with me. and should i choose -- if i think that she would be the best person to serve america in the capacity -- the state department, then i will nominate her. that's not a determination i've made yet. >> why don't you be our u.n. interpreter right now and explain all the...
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. >> senator lindsey graham said sunday he plans to revisit comprehensive immigration reform that was shelved two years ago. >> it's one thing to shoot yourself in the foot. just don't reload the gun. so i intend not to reload this gun when it comes to hispanic. i intend to tear this wall down and pass an immigration reform bill that's an american solution to an american problem but we have nobody to blame but ourselves when it comes to losing hispanics. >> republican pollster tells "the new york times" it is obvious until republicans do do better among nonwhite voters they will cease to become a viable national party. we're going to have to address the fact younger people tend to be less conservative on a number of hot button social issues. a former bush adviser put it more bluntly. we have become what the left was in the '70s. former bush, if another republican man says anything about rape other than it was a horrific, violent crime, i want to personally cut out his tongue. the only woman in the house gop leadership said republicans have a communication not an ideas problem. >> i do
. >> senator lindsey graham said sunday he plans to revisit comprehensive immigration reform that was shelved two years ago. >> it's one thing to shoot yourself in the foot. just don't reload the gun. so i intend not to reload this gun when it comes to hispanic. i intend to tear this wall down and pass an immigration reform bill that's an american solution to an american problem but we have nobody to blame but ourselves when it comes to losing hispanics. >> republican pollster...
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chuck schumer and lindsey graham are revisiting a plan they proposed together back in 2010. >> i think we have a darn good chance, using this blueprint, to get something done this year. the republican party has learned that being anti-illegal -- anti-immigrant doesn't work for them politically. and they know it. >> it's one thing to shoot yourself in the foot. just don't reload the gun. so, i intend not to reload this gun when it comes to hispanics. i intend to tear this wall down and pass an immigration reform bill that's an american solution to an american problem. we have nobody to blame but ourselves when it comes to losing hispanics. and we can get them back with an effort on our part. >> two years ago, president obama called schumer and graham's proposal a promising framework. >>> the greek parliament has approved an austerity budget for the next year. let's take a look at the early markets. cnbc's julia chatterly is live in london. greece had to do this, despite mass protest in the street. >> absolutely. one difference we saw was there was no reported violence, which is somethin
chuck schumer and lindsey graham are revisiting a plan they proposed together back in 2010. >> i think we have a darn good chance, using this blueprint, to get something done this year. the republican party has learned that being anti-illegal -- anti-immigrant doesn't work for them politically. and they know it. >> it's one thing to shoot yourself in the foot. just don't reload the gun. so, i intend not to reload this gun when it comes to hispanics. i intend to tear this wall down...
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. >> just listening to john mccain, that's senator lindsey graham taking to the microphone there but listening to senator mccain who has been very vocal about trying to find out and get answers to what happened in benghazi on september 11th. a loss of four american lives there. critical of ambassador susan rice as we've heard senator john mccain talk about her, colonel jack jacobs is still with me. he's calling for a select committee. it most likely will not happen. >> it's my guess too. >> but making a lot of noise to make it happen. now we have this coming on the heels of the fact that david petraeus will testify to the senate intelligence committee, however, behind closed doors. >> yeah, i don't think he's necessarily going -- petraeus going to necessarily have very much to add to what we already know. there's little doubt in my mind and the mind of most military people the attack on the compound in benghazi was preplanned, small arms and automatic represent, rocket-propelled grenades and mortars no a concerted effort. that's preplanned and in most cases rehearsed. for the white h
. >> just listening to john mccain, that's senator lindsey graham taking to the microphone there but listening to senator mccain who has been very vocal about trying to find out and get answers to what happened in benghazi on september 11th. a loss of four american lives there. critical of ambassador susan rice as we've heard senator john mccain talk about her, colonel jack jacobs is still with me. he's calling for a select committee. it most likely will not happen. >> it's my guess...
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senator lindsey graham made an important statement -- >> we have four dead americans in benghazi. we have a national secure failure along in the making. i don't see how in the world you can find out what happened in benghazi before, during and after the attack if general petraeus doesn't testify. so from my point of view, it's absolutely essential that he give testimony before the congress so we can figure out benghazi. >> his second is going to step in to give that testimony now. but could he be compelled to testify? >> he would then be testifying about potentially classified information. but i think congress could certainly call him. you presume the agency second would also have been briefed on what was happening and could give adequate testimony as well. i think republicans for a lot of reasons still want petraeus there because he's the person they wanted to talk to. i think one of the things to remember is there is a slight distinction. the fbi initially was not investigating general petraeus but the potential hacking of his e-mails because the e-mails coming from his alleged
senator lindsey graham made an important statement -- >> we have four dead americans in benghazi. we have a national secure failure along in the making. i don't see how in the world you can find out what happened in benghazi before, during and after the attack if general petraeus doesn't testify. so from my point of view, it's absolutely essential that he give testimony before the congress so we can figure out benghazi. >> his second is going to step in to give that testimony now....
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because of tone and rhetoric. >> south carolina senator, lindsay graham. that was sound from this morning's round of senators. trying to explain why the republican party did so poorly with latino americansing in the election. joining us raul reyes and mike gonzales, vice president for the heritage foundation. let's look and listen to what said the reason to blame for his poor performance on tuesday. take a listen. >> mitt romney made some mistakes. i think he is an extraordinary man. and i think he would have made an extraordinary candidate. i think mitt romney's comments is a symptom. i think the disease is the fact that the far right of the party controls the primary process. >> really, mike? was it the primary process that's to blame for governor romney's bad numbers with latinos? >> hey craig and hey raul. let me take a quick second to say this is a veterans weekend, remember our veterans for keeping our country safe. we're a country of immigrants, one of the most fascinating things about this country. i'm an immigrant. now what it's like come here and
because of tone and rhetoric. >> south carolina senator, lindsay graham. that was sound from this morning's round of senators. trying to explain why the republican party did so poorly with latino americansing in the election. joining us raul reyes and mike gonzales, vice president for the heritage foundation. let's look and listen to what said the reason to blame for his poor performance on tuesday. take a listen. >> mitt romney made some mistakes. i think he is an extraordinary...
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some of your colleagues, lindsey graham and john mccain have been outspoke on this point. what say you? >> there is a lot of questions to be answered here yet and one would be if susan rice has lots of briefings just like i believe she has access to the president's daily briefing information, what did she know and was she giving information she knew not to be accurate. there's a difference if all you're doing is talking from the unclassified talking points, which means you can find most of this in the newspaper, and that's all you know, or if you know something that clearly is different than what you're telling the american people, she may just know exactly what she said and at if that's the case, i'm wondering why five days later, she's the person the white house has out there saying things that clearly was not in agreement with the cia's early analysis of what had really happened. the one thing that the cia did say, andrea, was early on, was it looks like there was a demonstration before all this started. now we know there wasn't a demonstration at all. we saw the survei
some of your colleagues, lindsey graham and john mccain have been outspoke on this point. what say you? >> there is a lot of questions to be answered here yet and one would be if susan rice has lots of briefings just like i believe she has access to the president's daily briefing information, what did she know and was she giving information she knew not to be accurate. there's a difference if all you're doing is talking from the unclassified talking points, which means you can find most...
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. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi, and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> i knee people don't come to spontaneous demonstrations with rockets and mortars for the president of the united states for two weeks afterwards to deny that was the case, is either a coverup or it is incompetence. >> ahead this hour, one of the republicans calling for a wider probe, new hampshire senator kelly ayotte. and what's going on with the generals? leon panetta orders ethics review. the fbi agent, he's the guy who brought down the millennium bomber. >>> taking out the military leader of hamas and fire from the gaza strip. >> israel will continue to take whatever action is necessary to defend our people. >> we'll talk to michael oren, israel's ambassador to the united states. >>> and president obama at this hour in staten islan
. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi, and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> i knee people don't come to spontaneous demonstrations with rockets and mortars for the president of the united states for two...
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as senator graham said, he simply doesn't trust ambassador rice after what she said about benghazi. i would like your reaction to that and would those threats deter from making a nomination like that? >> first of all, i'm not going to comment at this point on various nominations that i'll put forward to fill out my cabinet for the second term. those are things that are still being discussed. but let me say specifically about susan rice. she has done exemplary work. she has represented the united states and our interests in the united nations with skill and professionalism and toughness and grace. as i've said before, she made an appearance at the request of the white house in which she gave her best understanding of the intelligence that had been provided to her. if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador, who had nothing to do with benghazi, and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received, and to besm
as senator graham said, he simply doesn't trust ambassador rice after what she said about benghazi. i would like your reaction to that and would those threats deter from making a nomination like that? >> first of all, i'm not going to comment at this point on various nominations that i'll put forward to fill out my cabinet for the second term. those are things that are still being discussed. but let me say specifically about susan rice. she has done exemplary work. she has represented the...
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many republicans, including a guy like south carolina senator lindsey graham who normally ends up confirming a lot of the president's appointments, did in the first term, is promising a brutal confirmation pick if rice is picked. >> i'm not entertaining promoting anybody that i think was involved with the benghazi debacle. i'm not going to promote somebody i think has misled the country or is incompetent. that's my view of susan rice. there are other people out there. i don't want to fight with the president over something like this, but there has to be an accountability. you just can't let this happen and act as if there are no consequences. >> back to the unfolding scandal surrounding two of the country's most accomplished military leaders of their time. drawing sharp scrutiny from capitol hill, on the "today" show the chairman of the homeland security committee peter king is surprised the fbi got involved in the first place. >> this is not the type of case that usually becomes a federal investigation. cyber harassment between two women or any two people, certainly involved a love triangle
many republicans, including a guy like south carolina senator lindsey graham who normally ends up confirming a lot of the president's appointments, did in the first term, is promising a brutal confirmation pick if rice is picked. >> i'm not entertaining promoting anybody that i think was involved with the benghazi debacle. i'm not going to promote somebody i think has misled the country or is incompetent. that's my view of susan rice. there are other people out there. i don't want to...
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i support what senator mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte are doing. i think that probably is the right direction. >> thank you so much. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> we're only minutes away from the president's news conference. stay with us for live coverage next on "andrea mitchell reports." >> time for the your business entrepreneurs of the week. kathleen and susan are encouraging customers to shop local. they created the monthly ladies night in the magnolia park area of burbank, california, to boost sales by staying open late. make sure to support your local retailers on november 24th for the third annual small business saturday. for more watch your business this sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. sometimes what we suffer from is bigger than we think ... like the flu. with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big deal. so why treat it like it's a little cold? there's something that works differently than over-the-counter remedies. prescription tamiflu attacks the flu virus at its source. so don't wait. call your doctor right away.
i support what senator mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte are doing. i think that probably is the right direction. >> thank you so much. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> we're only minutes away from the president's news conference. stay with us for live coverage next on "andrea mitchell reports." >> time for the your business entrepreneurs of the week. kathleen and susan are encouraging customers to shop local. they created the monthly ladies night...
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. >> others including senator lindsey graham it's likely petraeus will be called on at some point. >> i hate what happened to general petraeus for his family and the families involved, but we have four americans dead in benghazi, a failure in the making. i don't see how in the world you can find out what happened in benghazi before, during and after the attack if general petraeus doesn't testify. so from my point of view, it's absolutely essential that he give testimony before the congress so we can figure out benghazi. >> nbc news has reached out to general petraeus and paula broadwell, and so far there's been no response. jill kelley and her husband, scott, released a statement to "the new york times" yesterday, asking for privacy for their family. >> andrea mitchell, what happened here? the fbi's investigating this. a woman sends some -- first of all, tell us the nature of these e-mails that would prompt an fbi investigation. >> well, here's the situation. the woman, whom we have confirmed was jill kelley who was a married woman in tampa who did some social and wounded warrior work
. >> others including senator lindsey graham it's likely petraeus will be called on at some point. >> i hate what happened to general petraeus for his family and the families involved, but we have four americans dead in benghazi, a failure in the making. i don't see how in the world you can find out what happened in benghazi before, during and after the attack if general petraeus doesn't testify. so from my point of view, it's absolutely essential that he give testimony before the...